SIR keir starmer decision Suspend four labor MPs There has been a strong response outside both inside and outside the Westminster to defy the party whip.
The punishment was found in the midst of their biggest backbenth rebellion after Rachel Maskail, Chris Hilif,, Brian Leishman, and Neil Duncan-Jordan, after forcing the government-employed welfare deduction.
Some suspension is seen as an assurance of control before leaving the MPs before leaving for summer holidays, especially rumors that disgruntled labor figures are negotiating with Jeremy Corbin about forming a new party.
Stamor supporters including Labor Minister Jess Philips argue that it was right to punish rebel MPs. “To close your government”.
Meanwhile, the Prime Minister’s critics say Move reveals his weaknessIt is not his right. The leaders of the Sangh have condemned the works as a “ruling” and warned of a deep rift between labor and labor movement.
Rebel MPs have Defeated their stance As theory, insisting that they were elected to stand for the struggling components, not for the rubber-stamp law they believe that they would harm.
Independent Readers also strong, but divided, weighed with ideas. Some supported the need for unity and discipline in the government, but others questioned the starrer leadership style.
What did you say here:
You sign up to follow party discipline
If you are selected using party funding, logistics and “brands”, you have signed up to follow the party’s discipline and the government back on three-line whip.
It is written in too much stone from the moment you put yourself a candidate. In all parties.
You may feel bound to revolt on some cases of discretion, perhaps. But you know well what the results are.
Stevil
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Behave
It is right to do so. A group of labor backbenchers is behaving like a undisciplined herd of student protesters, not members of the governing party. It may be because the labor rarely holds power, but it always has a troublesome internal opposition, which does not seem to believe that once a party is in a government, the primary duty of MPs is to rule in the national interest and adopt collective responsibility – and then represent the views of their components.
Their political and ideological priorities somehow come down in the list of priorities, and reduce their government by throwing their toys out of the pram when they do not make their way. Voters do not like split parties who fight internal wars – this was a major part of the reason that they drove the toesy out.
If it is the perception that the leftist Amok runs and is causing chaos, then the labor will be toast and we will get the toesy back (or worse, improve). If this happens, the ‘rebels’ would have enabled a rollback in a rollback on the destruction of the welfare system and the destruction of the welfare system, pure zero, green policies and more.
Being in power and achieving anything, even if not everything that all MPs want, should be much better to come back in protest and get nothing.
Tanaquil2
Is a backbone
It is not easy to be in the government, and the difficult agreement has to be done for a long period. It is not called cherx-picing, not to be able to do other things without being able to do your favorite policies (remembering braxit talks?). They will be loved by someone else, and thus chaos.
Whether or not the government support, but there is a backbone to vote without any belief. The government is responsible for the people – not members of the Labor Party or other parties for this case.
Longsands
No easy fix
Every MP should also have the duty to consider how to ensure the best for your components in the long term. This government has been struggling to put the right long -term abuses which have been imposed on the common British people for decades, since several Margaret Thatcher. Lies about giving big bets to common people have been sold since, while some accumulate more and more money and power. Some of these will take a decade to unbalance, and many of us will suffer from a short term for more good and true democracy.
I wish, there is no easy fix, even though many (most?) MPs would be able to offer their components one. Reeves and Stamor feel that they can do the best with a cheap hand of the card and a rigged deck!
Graeme
Primary fee
I am reminded of the comments about the duties of an MP of Winston Churchill:
“The first duty of a member of Parliament is that he thinks in his loyal and indifferent decision that Great Britain is right and necessary for respect and safety. His second duty is for his components, of which he is representative, but is a famous declaration of Burke on the subject, but it is only third. In which he stands under any healthy expression of democracy.”
So the primary duty of an MP is for the good of the country, then for his components as a whole, and only then to his party.
Stamor has suspended MPs to perform their duty by keeping the good of their components more than the party’s responsibility.
thoroughly
He cannot dismiss them all!
As mentioned above, their rebellion is a sign of their weakness. Lishham is an MP for Alaoa and Granjmoth (Scotland); The possibility of their suspension will be closed at the Scottish labor party, where the stormer is becoming increasingly unpopular.
In Aloa and Granjmoth, 26.6 percent of children live in poverty. Brian Lesham, as a Labor MP for the region, opposed the policies of the starrer persistent, especially those intended to spoil the lives of poor people in Great Britain.
He clung to his royal point of view in welfare cuts. I suspect that many other Scottish labor MPs will continue their opposition. Finally, he cannot dismiss all of them!
pale Horse
A group of ‘martyr’
If he thinks he can make his rights vocal in this way, it will backfire, and he has created a group of “martyrs” who will feel free to criticize his policies, which has no fear of vengeance.
It can also set an example. In addition, he should have a word with himself in summer, and ask why Labor MPs may object to cutting the pip support prepared as probably improvement – an improvement that was not even in the manifesto.
He does not understand what it looks like on the ground when they bite from the poorest and take it for free. And if he still does not understand why the rebels did this, he should resign.
His top-down leadership style to command over 400 Labor MPs was always going to have its limits. These people have opinion and they are giving them voice, but seems unable to take anything on the stamor board. It is a very old-fashioned, top-down leadership style. More modern styles connect with people and take them with them. After kicking any disagreeable voices during his time in protest, he surrounded himself with yes-people, and now he is withdrawing the awards. Organizations with those types of structures are always lucky to fail.
Lafti &praude
A step towards a dictatorship
It should not be a representative in democracy.
Each MP has an obligation for its components and their discretion, and must be free to vote for them.
A cabinet should persuade its MPs to vote for party policy, but should force them to vote in a certain way – those who do these restrictions effectively are a step towards a dictatorship.
Bigdogsmallbrain
Bangle
It seems a little heavy to me, an outsider. These MPs gave an honest opinion and tried to convince the government that it was taking a wrong step.
Once again, the government has clearly handled the clearly sensitive issue, and the presentation is badly over.
Advice to the government – If someone should get a boot, it is your current PR advisor. There has been a series of bad calls in the last one year that looked poorly from WFA. Learn or affect the results.
49niner
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