Scam of “Totalitarian ” The conditions of the indefinite prison have damaged the prisoners deeply with “state failure”, warning them to rehabilitate them, a former Tory Justice Secretary.
Alex Chak Casey said that imprisonment for public safety (IPP) jail Recent proposal To eliminate historical wrong.
In a clear interview after leaving the government a year ago, he described the conditions of the prison as “State Overch”, which has left thousands of people. Go to jail For 22 times longer than their original tariff.
They told Independent And podcast Stuck: IPP scam: “If you take time to convince people how the state has done things wrong and it is a state, and eventually it has worked in such a way, which is much more, inappropriate and almost totalitarian, then I think most of the British are against the spirit of justice.”
More than 2,500 prisoners are still trapped under the terms of the illegal gel, described by the United Nations as “psychological torture”. He was abolished in 2012, but not retrospectively, except for those who had already gone to jail indefinitely.
Scam Independentinclude: Leroy DouglasWho has served about 20 years to rob mobile phone; Thomas White42, who kept themselves in their cell and served 13 years to steal the phone; And Abdullahi sulemon41, who is also 19 years after going to jail for a laptop robbery.
48 -year -old Mr. Chak, a barrister, who was first faced sentence when he was prosecuting cases in criminal courts, said he tried to address the “toxic heritage” of the jail terms when he started a change by reduced the IPP license period from 10 years to three to three.
Prior to last year’s general election, about 1,800 people have abolished their license in the community after the victims and the prisoners, passed under the Act.
He said that although many people had committed serious crimes, whether you consider yourself “heart of bleeding” or “strict on crime”, the word of prison is “against the fairness of the people in the UK”.
He said, “There is not a single vote for IPP to reduce the minimum period of 10 years by three years,” he said. “A, because most people do not understand it and B, as an innovar they understand that this is no sympathy for those individuals.
“But I did this because I felt that it was right. I did this because I felt it was right and I was sure it was the right job.”
However, in the sage Sunak’s government, Mr. Chak stopped accepting the recommendations from the Nyaya Committee that all IPP prisoners should be angry. 94 IPP prisoners have taken their lives because they lose hope of release at any time.

She warned that Ms. is a difficult problem to resolve Ms. Mahmud as she consider the new proposals from the Howard League for Panel Reform and former top judge Lord John Thomas to eliminate injustice by giving prisoners to the prisoners in their next review by the parole board within the two -year window.
They admitted some prisoners, who automatically get rid of regularly, determine that the conditions of the prison will not pass the release test of the parole board, but it is still the demand of all IPP prisoners.
In some cases, they believe that their long -term chaos has made them very dangerous to pass this test.
He said: “Therefore injustice can be implicated as follows: that you have people who were considered dangerous, but for whom some 10, 15, 20 years ago expected rehabilitation, and yet the experience of being in custody, under these improper orders, some people turned them into extremely unstable and dangerous people.
“And therefore the question of examination is, how do you correct this historical wrong without leading the innocent members of the public to pay the price for state failure?”
He continued: “This is wickedness, as I say, the kingdom is a very high part why they are very dangerous. So what you do? Well, I think it is a proposal with Howard League and Lord Thomas that it is certainly worthy of careful consideration.”
Although he would “twitch” to agree for the release date for the remaining IPP prisoners within a two -year window, Mr. Chalk would not “out” if it came with additional safety measures such as tagging and extended monitoring.
This will ensure that the prisoners were “directed, as it was, not on the edge of a rock from custody to freedom, but a rehabilitation for the future is too much of a glide path”, he said.

However, he supported the call of Howard League for low IPP prisoners, which were called back to minor violations of license terms, agreeing that the threshold was currently “very low”.
He said, “Our duty as a state is to throw all the resources that we can do to improve the person to try to stand on our own two legs to lead the law that follows the law, and it is our responsibility.”
The proposals of the Howard League were placed together by a panel of UK’s top justice experts under the leadership of Lord Thomas, who served as Lord Chief Justice from 2013 to 2017.
The former-judge, who is a member of the House of Lords, believes that the “practical solution” may be the last chance to help those in the prison period, warning that some IPP prisoners will be closed in jail without action until they die.
While urging the state to take responsibility for his mistakes, he insisted that “it is enough”, given that if these prisoners committed their crime a day after the end of the sentence, they would have been freed from a long time.
The judge said, “It is time to address this problem in the way we have determined, which produces justice and reduces as much risk as possible,” said the judge said, who supported last year. IndependentCampaign to review IPP sentences.
The government has said that Minister will carefully consider the recommendations of Howard League.
A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: “It is true that IPP sentences were abolished. IPP prisoners are considered for release by independent parole board every two years and which are considered safe.
“The government is supporting IPP prisoners to achieve its release, but it should be done in a way that does not risk the public.”
Mr. Chalk will also be depicted in interview Stuck: IPP prisoner scam.