Tulsi Gabbard joined Glenn Beck this morning for a wide-ranging interview and I’m going to show that to you down below….
But one particular question really jumped out at me, and it’s been something running through my head too.
Glenn asked Tulsi how and why are all of these documents just now coming out in 2025 in the Second Trump Administration when it seems clear that most of them were generated in the 2015-2017 time frame and would have been readily accessible by Trump’s First Administration.
So why are we just now seeing and using them?
It’s a great question and something that has been bothering me as well.
Tulsi gives her answer, which I think has a lot of merit, but I’m going to expand on that and add my speculation.
You ready?
My speculation and theory is what I’ve been telling you for the better part of ten years now…
I have seen how calm, cool and collected President Trump has been for the last ten years, in the highs and in the lows. And even at the lows, when he was facing four lawsuits and even prison time (remember his mugshot?) — even then he looked unusually calm almost without a care in the world.
How does that happen?
I know he’s a special person and built different than most of us, but he’s not literally Superman. He’s still human.
How does someone facing all of that, including the war waged on his family — how does someone remain so calm at every step?
I believe it’s because from the earlier points in 2015/2016, Trump and the White Hats scooped up EVERYTHING!
I told you back then, they’ve got it all.
I believe they caught everything in realtime and immediately stored all the evidence in safe and secure locations.
But that’s not just my theory.
That’s not just Noah on the Internet letting his speculation run wild.
No, President Trump told you literally point blank “I caught them all!”
Remember this?
I know many have seen this .. but many have not ..
Everyone who think this is fake is in for the surprise of a lifetime …Have Faith ..
Breath easier..
Smile more ..
Because Trump caught them ALL ….W.H.G. pic.twitter.com/WB2aGgGI55
— Jack Straw (@JackStr42679640) October 5, 2024
Folks, this is not hard to figure out.
President Trump and the White Hats caught them all, in real time, and they recorded and saved EVERYTHING.
It’s why for the last 10 years President Trump has looked and acted like a man already holding the Royal Flush — because he is.
He knows he has the proverbial “Trump Card” and “Trump Hand” and he’s just been waiting to play it.
He knew we had to get through four years of “The Pause” to show the country just how bad things can get so quickly.
I believe he “caught them all” in 2016, in 2020, and again in 2024.
I believe he won all three of those elections, but he let them stage the coup in 2020 to allow for The Pause.
Why drag it out for so long?
Because the Country could not have handled it in 2016.
It would have looked like a Coup by Trump instead of the other way around.
Heck, even in 2025 we still have stupid little “No Kings” rallies.
There is still a large portion of the General Population that has believed all of these lies and they are going to be extremely hard to convince and wake up.
The White Hats are trying.
They’re giving as much time as humanly possible, but soon the sword will need to fall and the dust will have to scatter where it will.
That’s my theory, and each day it becomes increasingly more clear that my theory has been 100% right.
It’s the “You are Watching a movie” theory — and that doesn’t mean every single moment of the last 10 years has been scripted.
No, far from it.
But a general arc and outline I believe was scripted and then micro-adjustments have been made on a daily basis to continue funneling reality into the desired outcome.
Now I give you Tulsi Gabbard who explains her answer to that question.
Watch here:
FULL TRANSCRIPT:
Glenn Beck: Hi, Tulsi. How are you?
Tulsi Gabbard: I’m good.
Glenn Beck: It’s great to see you.
Tulsi Gabbard: Good to see you.
Glenn Beck: First of all, how’s everything in Hawaii? We prayed for you and everybody in Hawaii.
Tulsi Gabbard: Thank you so much. Thankfully, the tsunami passed without any real damage. I was talking to my folks and friends and family there late last night here on the East Coast and trying to help make sure everyone was prepared for the worst, which is what you have to do. It looked like it was going to be quite potentially damaging; they were looking at one‑ to three‑meter waves, essentially ten‑foot waves. Horrible. That, in any respect, is kind of a tough day in the ocean, but for a tsunami it would have been disastrous. Again, thankfully everyone is safe and there was minimal effect.Glenn Beck: Let’s go into what has been released and what is still yet to come. As I look at the declassified documents of Russia‑gate, it confirms what many of us have already known. Are you surprised at the media not reporting any of this? We’ve known a lot of this, but now the media is silent on it and people seem to be deleting posts and no longer commenting online. What’s happening?
Tulsi Gabbard: I am not surprised that the mainstream media is refusing to cover this. If they do mention it, their approach is to try to diminish the effect and impact of the revelations we found in the documents that we declassified and released, or to give voice to detractors who dismiss it as bizarre or crazy. When you look at the coverage and the quotes the mainstream media is choosing to highlight, they’re not addressing the very specific pieces of evidence we released that quote people like John Brennan, the CIA director, and James Clapper, Obama’s director of national intelligence. They are not giving voice to the intelligence professionals who in these reports protested against the malicious actions Brennan and Clapper were taking at President Obama’s direction to create this intelligence assessment filled with falsehoods. They refuse to highlight these professionals because acknowledging them would push forward a very inconvenient truth: it exposes the media’s complicity in pushing this lie and hoax from day one through President Trump’s entire first administration.Glenn Beck: Brennan and Clapper have been the source on so many things, and they’re in with the media. I wonder if this is just more of the same—somebody asks them if there’s anything to this and they say no, there’s not. How many people are you surrounded by that are still part of that old system?
Tulsi Gabbard: It’s a good question. As we find these documents and go through them, declassifying and releasing them, we are learning more about who was directly involved and implicated. We’re learning who may have been in the room and who was loudly protesting against it, recognizing how wrong it was. We have whistleblowers coming forward with documentation of their protests and their refusal to go along with this. There are people still working within the intelligence community who had a hand in this. As we identify them, we can ensure they and others like them, who were willing to weaponize intelligence to subvert the will of the American people, can no longer work in the intelligence community.Glenn Beck: Devin Nunes, Kash Patel—all these guys were there last time Trump was in. This was produced in the last administration. Why didn’t this come out then?
Tulsi Gabbard: It’s an obvious question. I can’t speak for all who were there, but I’ve asked some of these same questions. They were up against the deep state in many cases, people who refused to release these documents. If you remember, Mike Pompeo was President Trump’s first CIA director, followed by Gina Haspel. I was told Haspel refused to release these documents. As more whistleblowers come forward, the story will continue to be told about what actually happened and why, here we are in 2025, we still need to shine a light on the truth. Documented evidence and proof matter because they show this wasn’t a concoction; most importantly, they can drive accountability.Glenn Beck: Fox News had an exclusive saying Kash Patel found thousands of sensitive documents related to the origins of the Trump–Russia probe buried in multiple burn bags in secret rooms inside the bureau. What is a burn bag?
Tulsi Gabbard: A burn bag is something you’ll find in many offices throughout the intelligence community. If I have a highly classified document, I read it, review it, and when I’m done, my copy can go in the burn bag to ensure it doesn’t end up in the wrong hands or get disclosed without authorization. It’s very different if someone uses a burn bag to get rid of evidence that maybe exists only in one copy and then hides it in a secret room in the FBI. That’s a tactic bad actors have used to get rid of evidence. Another tactic is over‑classifying information. This happened with the Steele dossier. It was already publicized as discredited, but Brennan and Clapper used it as a source for an intelligence assessment full of falsehoods. They didn’t want anyone to know they used it, so they over‑classified it in a way that less than ten people could access it. Then they locked up the only hard copy documents; it didn’t exist digitally. The document that exposed this was the one we released. They locked that document and the five copies in a safe. It had never been seen publicly, and many in government had not seen it until we released it.Glenn Beck: John Ratcliffe said there’s more declassification coming that shows how deep this went. He said it’s stunning. Any idea on the timeline?
Tulsi Gabbard: It’s going through the declassification process now. I expect it to be released very soon. The document will speak for itself. It will confirm what many have known but will connect dots that haven’t been revealed in public before.Glenn Beck: Are you sensing something? Mark Elias stopped posting on X, Brennan has lawyered up, John Kerry made his account private, Peter Strzok deleted his entire X history. Do they feel the walls are closing in? In my view that’s the only way to read this; those who are truly innocent wouldn’t take those actions.
Tulsi Gabbard: Once again, this is why it’s so important to declassify this information. Getting the truth out is essential. For anyone who is even mildly objective, it’s irrefutable and undeniable. It can be used—and is being reviewed by the Department of Justice—to bring accountability for those involved.Glenn Beck: We were talking before we went on the air. I’m struggling with my job right now because at times it doesn’t seem like it’s worth it. It feels like it makes no difference because I don’t know what I believe anymore. I don’t know what’s true. I can’t sit on the air and talk about problems if there’s no solution. It feels insane, doing the same thing over and over, beating your head against the wall and saying, “Here’s proof, here’s proof,” and nothing happens. Do you sense that? Do the people around you understand how dangerous it is for the country if people no longer believe there’s justice on any front?
Tulsi Gabbard: First, Glenn, let me tell you how important your voice is. I’m serious. I’m not patronizing. Your voice and voices like yours can reach and impact people from all political stripes, backgrounds, and walks of life across the country who aren’t paying close attention. Your ability to communicate is the first challenge: explain why Americans should care about this at all. The implications of what we have exposed truly matter—not just for President Trump, Republicans, or Democrats, but for the integrity of our democratic republic and the tactics being used by the deep state to subvert the will of the American people. President Obama and his cohort were not happy that President Trump got elected. So, we need to make clear the implications for our republic. The second piece is accountability. Our system is set up the way it is by visionary founding fathers. We must fulfill our duty focused on the Constitution and provide a mechanism for accountability. Americans have always recognized the power of their voices. We need to call for necessary action to begin restoring that trust.Glenn Beck: Dan Bongino posted a cryptic message on X. He said what he found out at the FBI shocked him to the core. “We cannot run a republic like this and I’ll never be the same after learning what I’ve learned.” I’m not expecting you to answer for him, but have you felt that way when you’ve gotten in there?
Tulsi Gabbard: I have seen up close the tactics used by those who care more for themselves—their ambition, job, influence, political interests, selfish self‑serving interests—than the Constitution. Every law enforcement and intelligence professional swears an oath just as I have, in uniform and in Congress, to support and defend the Constitution. That’s why what we’re doing matters. Yes, I have frustrations. But my resolve is focused and rooted in my love for our country and the principles it was founded upon. I feel the responsibility to do something about what we are revealing and experiencing firsthand. It’s heavy, but it’s an awesome responsibility, and I spend every day doing my best to fulfill it.Glenn Beck: We’ve talked before, and I’ve said you’re in the second most dangerous job in the nation. President Trump has the most dangerous. You’re working around people who do this kind of stuff for a living. We pray for your safety every night. I’m going to continue our conversation in a minute, but last night I did a TV show that’s getting a lot of attention. It shows the connections to the radicals in the streets. I wondered, why hasn’t Antifa been deemed a terrorist organization? Why are these guys not arrested? Why aren’t we investigating them for terror? They’re trying to change politics and policies through fear, intimidation, and violence. That’s the definition of terror. We’ll pick it up with Tulsi on that in just a second.
Tulsi Gabbard: It’s funny you mention that because I released several documents back in May that laid out the foundational strategy the Biden administration used in labeling groups and individuals as domestic violent extremists. If parents were angry or worried that their kids might be vaccinated at school without approval, they might be labeled extremists. We saw the radical traditionalist Catholics. The FBI under Obama did similar things. They also diminished Antifa under the Biden administration, downplaying the threat they posed to the safety and security of our communities. What you touched on is important: the ideology driving these groups who pose a direct threat to the fabric of our country and to American safety and security.
Glenn Beck: They don’t seem afraid of anything. They’ve never paid a price. Nobody even names them or says what they are. I talked to a guy in the world you live in now, and I asked if we can win this fight without naming it. He said we can, but not the way we’re fighting. “They fight day and night. We fight sometimes during the day. We need to be nighttime fighters as well.” I didn’t ask what he meant. Do you agree?
Tulsi Gabbard: I do. We need to be vigilant and clear‑eyed about the ideology driving people here who are directly working against the Constitution, the founding principles of our country, and the American way of life. There needs to be more focus on those chanting pro‑Hamas mantras and calls for intifada. Yes, some disturb the peace, but again it’s the ideology driving these individuals that is dangerous.Glenn Beck: One last question on extremists. I see people celebrating violence, like the CEO of United Healthcare being shot—40 percent think it’s great. If Pam Bondi actually charges these people, the press will say, “This is weaponization of government,” and flip the script. Many will believe it because the media carries their water. How concerned are we about the reaction of the left in the streets with every move Donald Trump makes? Should that play a role in how we proceed?
Tulsi Gabbard: We have to stand strong for the truth. We have to stand strong for justice, the Constitution, and freedom. Many of these bad actors frankly don’t believe in those things. The mainstream media will do what it does. A positive here is that fewer people read or believe mainstream media. Their ratings are abysmal. There is a rise in audiences tuning into shows like yours, podcasts, and new media that represent real, authentic dialogue instead of filtered, agenda‑filled narratives.Glenn Beck: Tulsi, I’m glad we’re friends. I’m glad I live in a time where someone like you can serve. You were a Democrat, you switched when you did, and you have always approached everything with the same attitude you approached your military oath. That gives me hope. Thank you for everything you’ve done.
Tulsi Gabbard: I appreciate your friendship, Glenn. We must be filled with hope because God is love, and in God’s love is where we find hope. In times like this, we lean on our faith in God’s love, knowing that if we do our best to fulfill his will, things will work out as he has planned.
Glenn Beck: Amen. Amen. Thank you, Tulsi. God bless.
Tulsi Gabbard: Thank you.Glenn Beck: I really like her.
Stu: Yeah, I do too. I don’t agree with her on everything.
Glenn Beck: Neither do I, but I like that you don’t have to. She seems to take this seriously, cares about the country rather than herself, and takes her oath seriously. She could have gotten out of service, but she continues to serve honorably. She’s a fighter but doesn’t believe in war unless absolutely necessary. There aren’t a lot of politicians like her.
Stu: I wouldn’t even put her in the category of a typical politician, though she served in Congress. She doesn’t seem like that. She’s as far away from a Nancy Pelosi‑type politician as you can get. Who would you take more seriously—her or Eric Swalwell? It’s a tough one.
Glenn Beck: It’s a tough one. By the way, Trump was talking about Nancy Pelosi and insider trading yesterday. Here’s Trump on Nancy Pelosi.
Reporter: Senator Hawley introduced legislation that would ban members of Congress from owning or trading individual stocks. It extends to the president and vice president. Are you in favor of that legislation?
Donald Trump: I like it conceptually. I don’t know about it, but I like it conceptually. Nancy Pelosi became rich by having inside information. She made a fortune with her husband, and I think that’s disgraceful. In that sense, I’d like it, but I’d have to study it carefully. This just happened, so I’ll take a look at it. Conceptually, I like it. I think Nancy Pelosi should be investigated because she has the highest return of anybody in the history of Wall Street, save a few. How did that happen? She knows what’s going to be announced. She buys stock, and then the stock goes up after the announcement. She ought to be investigated.Glenn Beck: Now Jake Tapper spoke with Nancy Pelosi yesterday. Here’s what happened.
Jake Tapper: Nancy Pelosi became rich—
Nancy Pelosi: Why do you have to read that? We’re here to talk about the 60th anniversary of Medicaid. That’s what I agreed to talk about and what that means in the election.
Jake Tapper: I wanted to give you a chance to respond. He accused you of insider trading. What’s your response?
Nancy Pelosi: That’s ridiculous. I very much support stopping the trading of members of Congress. Not that I think anybody’s doing anything wrong. If they are, they are prosecuted and go to jail. But stopping it instills confidence in the American people. I’m not into it; my husband is. It isn’t anything to do with insider information. The president has his own exposure, so he’s always projecting. And let’s not give him any more time. We’re going forward. I’m very proud of my family. While he makes fun of us, someone inspired by him broke into our home and hit my husband over the head. He thinks that’s a riot. I’d rather not go into my complaints about him. I’d rather talk about the 60th anniversary.
Glenn Beck: This is amazing. Nancy, you shouldn’t use the word “riot” like that. Her husband is the greatest trader in Wall Street history—seriously impressive, almost clairvoyant.
Stu: There are accounts that follow her trades. One replicates her trades and you beat the S&P 500. A few months ago, she bought options on an AI company and was up 330% in a month.
Glenn Beck: Impressive. Over and over she calls these things.
Stu: Her husband does. She’s not even into it. She doesn’t talk about it or know about it. She doesn’t share anything with her husband. He’s just a miracle investor.
Glenn Beck: It’s ridiculous. It’s been legal for these people to do this. There’s nothing illegal about it; that’s why there’s a bill. And to say he projects—it’s projection.
Stu: Kind of.Glenn Beck: Sydney Sweeney did an ad for American Eagle that got attention. Now Dunkin’ Donuts is into the genetics line in a new ad. Here’s Dunkin’ Donuts: “Look, I didn’t ask to be the king of summer. It just kind of happened. This tan, genetics. I just got my color analysis back. Guess what? Golden summer. Literally, I can’t help it. Every time I drink a Dunkin’ Golden Hour refresher, the sun finds me. So, sipping these refreshers makes me the king of summer. Guilty as charged.”
I’m not interested. Where’s the Sydney Sweeney ad? That was a much better ad. It’s not the same; this is just a dude. It’s a weird ad.
Stu: Is it a parody? Or is it a coincidence they both talk about genes?
Glenn Beck: Maybe it’s Dunkin’ Donuts. They couldn’t afford a big‑idea ad man. “Here’s an idea: we talk about genes.” Their campaign for 20 years was “Time to make the donuts.” Probably that guy’s idea: show employees miserable, abused, without sleep making donuts for people who show up.
Stu: You see it as an owner; I saw it as an employee. They never sleep.
