BIG UPDATES in the Brunson Brothers Case and 2020 Elections | WLT Report

Kelsey O’Malley:
Hey, everyone, and welcome to Elijah Streams.

Today is Wednesday, June 25th, 2025. I’m your host, Kelsey O’Malley, filling in for Steve Schultz. We are pre-recording today’s show, and I have the honor of hosting Loy Brunson.

He’s going to be giving us updates today on his case and what his plans are moving forward. And you know, for Loy, he is per se representing himself in the case, but, you know, he’s not really representing himself. I believe he’s representing we the people, a mass majority of people who believe that righteousness and justice in the Constitution—we should stand by what is right.

And I feel like even, you know, it’s a David and Goliath type of thing, because it’s like a man going up against this huge giant that is taunting, and you just feel like it can never fall.

And you know, even within his case, I just feel like there have been so many miracles—the fact that it’s even gotten all the way to the Supreme Court—and I want to discuss those today with Loy.

So please help me welcome my guest today for Prophets & Patriots, Loy Brunson.

Loy Brunson:
Eric called me and said, “Hey, what are your top 5 favorite Christian broadcasts?” He asked me, and I said, “You’ve got to get on Elijah Streams. You’ve got to do it. Steve’s great. You’ve got to get on his show.”

Loy, it’s so great to have you and just be with you and know that you are a courageous man.

Kelsey O’Malley:
And I know that your strength is probably not from yourself… not just coming from you.

Loy Brunson:
Oh, that has to be true. I think there’s probably—probably a God in there that you believe in and has helped you along the way.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yeah. And I just—
I would love to get the background of your case for those listening right now who kind of are unaware of what’s going on.

So would you just share with us the background of the case and kind of work your way through it? And I’d love to hear the little miracles along the way—because that always blesses me to hear those.

Loy Brunson:
Okay. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. And by the way, the Walkers are great, wasn’t that really special?

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes, they are.

Loy Brunson:
They were singing. She’s singing. Anyway… it started with the 2020 election when Ted Cruz was trying to get members of Congress to support a simple 10-day pause.

He had 145 members of Congress supporting that 10-day pause. And there’s a great video out there. You can find it if you do a search. Go to Loy Brunson YouTube and see him pleading for 4 or 5 minutes to just—to join in this 10-day pause.

Well, my brother in the past had been suing some banks because of the subprime mortgage bungling.

I’m gonna take this out for a second.

So he decided that something had to be done, because he was really quite upset with seeing the lack of support that Ted Cruz was able to garner. I mean, 145 is quite a few.

So because he had experience—he took a video course, I guess—learning how to file lawsuits.

And so, because he had some properties that were affected by this subprime mortgage bundling—you could call it bungling—he knew how to file lawsuits.

And so after watching the joint session and being so distraught and so angry that there couldn’t be, with the mountain of evidence, a pause for an investigation into that evidence, he decided that he knew how to file a lawsuit.

And so he came up with this brilliant idea to bring some legal action against all the members of Congress and a few others that did not support that 10-day pause.

We felt like it was a security breach—that they should have honored their oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. And that “defend” should have been a constitutionally sound and honest election.

And so after about a month, he decided to call me on the phone and says, “I’ve got this great idea to sue 387 members of Congress and others, and the best part of this idea is you get to be the plaintiff.”

And I was like, “Well, how did you come up with that?”

He said he debated for quite a while in his mind whether to ask me or not—or when to—and I immediately saw this as an opportunity not just to push back against this, but also to promote the truth.

Some of these powerful concepts, clauses in the Constitution that have been completely—and I think intentionally—hidden and ignored for over 200 years.

And so we went forward.

But here’s the problem: How do you sue members of Congress and what do you sue them for?

And when you sue, you have to sue for damages.

Well, you can’t sue the government or government officials—federal government officials—you can’t sue them for damages unless you get permission from the government to sue the government. That’s how it’s set up.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Really?

Loy Brunson:
Yeah.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Wow.

Loy Brunson:
You have to get permission to sue.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s corrupt in itself.

Loy Brunson:
Exactly. Then once you get permission to sue, you have to go to a special claims—Federal Claims Court—to do it.

Kelsey O’Malley:
My…

Loy Brunson:
And so, with our knowledge and my study of the Constitution, it’s like, “Hey, the Constitution is very clear—guaranteeing my right to due process—to sue anyone, any entity, in any court.”

So we decided to bring a damage claim lawsuit against the 387 defendants in federal court.

We’re thinking, they’re not even going to let it be filed, right? So we prepared all the documents and went over and filed it and got it docketed.

It’s like, “Oh my gosh.” There was the first miracle, right?

They docketed it. They filed it.

So we—and—but then they unfiled it, and we had to fight with them and work with them, try to convince them that we had a right to do this.

So March 31st, 2022, the U.S. Marshal Service was ordered by the Federal Court of Utah to issue 387 summonses and complaints.

Now, the reason they ordered the U.S. Marshal Service to do it is because we couldn’t hire anyone to go in there.

A sheriff couldn’t do it. No one could go in there because they were locked down because of COVID.

So the federal court decided—and they suggested—the U.S. Marshal Service, and the federal court paid for it.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s awesome.

Loy Brunson:
The feds actually paid for the service.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That would have been really expe—

Loy Brunson:
Another miracle.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Another miracle. Right.

Loy Brunson:
Yeah. So on March 31st, 2022, the docket showed that about 84 members of Congress had been served—including Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters—

Kelsey O’Malley:
Wow.

Loy Brunson:
Adam Schiff, and about 80 or so others.

Well, the next day, April 1st, the docket showed that it had been recalled, that it was called a clerical error, and that my case was deficient.

And so we were devastated. Here’s another brick wall that we had experienced—several up to that point.

And so we thought, “What is going to happen?” So we decided that we would sue the federal court for violating my due process right, protected by the Constitution, to sue any entity in any court.

So we took the Federal Court of Utah to court. We took the Federal Court of Utah to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, complaining that the lower court was violating my due process rights.

Well, several weeks went by, and 3 justices at the 10th Circuit made a decision, and they replied back with their decision that my due process rights had not been violated and that the lower court was only backlogged.

It’s like, “Are you kidding me?” The docket shows they unfiled it, and they were denying that it was even unfiled.

So we decided to sue the two courts in state court.

We filed a lawsuit in state court against the Federal Court of Utah and the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Now, when you interfere with someone’s lawsuit, you can be liable for the monetary damages of the claims—even if the merits are not there to support it.

You still can be liable, because it’s a very serious thing to interfere with someone’s lawsuit after it’s been filed.

And the courts had done that. It had been filed and served, and they got in the mix and they shouldn’t have done anything.

And they did. So we took them to state court.

We sued them in state court.

Now, when you interfere with someone’s lawsuit, like I said, you’re going to be liable for the monetary damages.

Well, we were not asking for real damages.

How do you do real damages? It was punishment—punitive damages.

Which came to about a million dollars per cause of action per defendant.

$25 million per cause of action per defendant for 2 or 3 of them.

So the total was $1.9 billion damages per court.

So we took a $3.8 billion lawsuit against 2 federal courts into state court, and the state court filed and docketed it.

And this was another miracle.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That is incredible. That—that is probably never—

Loy Brunson:
Yeah.

Kelsey O’Malley:
I just want to say—

Loy Brunson:
Sorry to interrupt you.

Kelsey O’Malley:
No, that’s all right.

Loy Brunson:
A personal damage claim against federal officers and then 2 courts—in state court.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Absolutely.

Loy Brunson:
Unprecedented.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s probably never—yeah—never, ever happened in the history.

Loy Brunson:
Exactly. I’m so glad.

So anyway, we fought there for a while and there were some real interesting little miracles that happened there, because my—one of them is—my brother was filing a duplicate lawsuit, him as the plaintiff in state court, and it made it to federal court.

So the defense attorneys—or the U.S. attorneys in Utah defending the defendants against me—and now they’re defending not just the 387 defendants, they’re defending the 2 federal courts, and they’re also defending the 387 defendants against my brother’s lawsuit—for the same reasons.

So they’re communicating—and so in the pleadings of my brother’s lawsuit, they admitted that the federal court had unfiled my case, that it wasn’t just backlogged.

They admitted it.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Boom.

Loy Brunson:
And so with that information, we took that document from his case and took it to the state court with a full summary judgment motion saying, “Judge, look, we’ve got the proof right here.

We don’t even need a trial. You can make a decision because it’s—”

Kelsey O’Malley:
Black and white.

Loy Brunson:
It’s clear. Black and white.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes. Exactly.

Loy Brunson:
And so we waited for the judge to make a decision, and he wouldn’t make a decision.

But here’s the state court judge with this incredible opportunity to slam down 2 federal giants for depriving me—or violating my due process rights.

And so after several weeks went by, I guess the judge gave in, and he finally made a decision supporting the U.S. attorneys—so, dismissing my case.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Okay.

Loy Brunson:
Unbelievable.

So here we are, dead in the water again.

But a few weeks later, I was notified by the federal court that even though they had won at the state court level, they decided to do what I was suing them to do—and they refiled my case against the 387 defendants.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Come on.

Loy Brunson:
And the chief clerk of the court ordered the state—federal court—the chief clerk of the state federal court to issue the 387 summonses, which was completed within 48 hours.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Oh my gosh.

Loy Brunson:
And then the U.S. attorneys came on board to battle with us, and that’s what we were able to do—go from there, skipping the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals—

Kelsey O’Malley:
Oh my gosh.

Loy Brunson:
—with the Rule 11, which—in order to skip a normally required 10th Circuit Court of Appeals—you have to get permission from the Supreme Court of the United States under their Rule 11.

And they have to conclude—the clerk’s office has to conclude—that this is a case of imperative public importance.

Which they did. Allowing this to be—

Kelsey O’Malley:
Is that what Rule 11 is?

Loy Brunson:
Exactly.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yeah.

Loy Brunson:
Okay.

Loy Brunson:
Now, it got dismissed—well, I shouldn’t say dismissed, because when you appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States, they can deny a hearing.

So they deny a hearing. What you can do is file another petition saying, “Hey, we want another shot at this. This is important. Please give us another shot at having a hearing.”

And so you’re allowed two, and sometimes you can get more than two.

So my brother’s case was denied twice. Mine was denied once.

And then on August 19th, 2023, President Trump retruthed a video of me asking him if he would support my letter campaign at lloydbrunson.com, supporting the Supreme Court Justices to do the right thing.

These are letters going to the Supreme Court of the United States. That was a Friday.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Another miracle.

Loy Brunson:
Exactly. That was a Friday. Now, at this time, the justices are on vacation, because it’s summer.

So they didn’t even set a conference date for my second conference. They just said “distributed” on the docket at supremecourt.gov.

So Friday, President Trump supports the letter campaign—my video. The following Monday, the court docket shows: denied a hearing.

Denied a hearing without a conference.

It’s like, “Oh my gosh. Now we’re dead again.” What do you do?

We’ve been killed twice. It’s denied a hearing twice.

But we didn’t get a second conference.

So we just kind of felt like, “Well, this has been important. It’s raised awareness.”

Because now we can see—a lot of people can see now—that Article VI of the Constitution, which requires a binding oath, has been completely ignored because there’s no penalty for breaking their oath. And there’s supposed to be.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Can you share with us real quick what Article VI is of the Constitution? Just refresh people listening.

Loy Brunson:
If you look at Article VI, I’m talking about the point where it says: They shall be bound by oath to this Constitution.

It’s talking about federal officers that take an oath to the Constitution and anyone that takes an oath in the United States. Lawyers take an oath to the Constitution.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Okay. So everyone on even state and local levels takes an oath to the Constitution.

Loy Brunson:
Everyone within government.

But Article VI has the words: They shall be bound by oath to this Constitution.

And how can you be bound by oath if they have absolute immunity?

And that’s what the U.S. attorneys were defending all the defendants on.

They were defending the courts with judicial immunity and absolute immunity.

But it’s like, that’s a contradiction.

So we’re raising awareness, and I’m excited about that fact.

But here we are—kind of dead in the water—where I’ve been denied twice, and my brother was denied twice.

And then several months go by, we have a new administration.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Mm-hmm.

Loy Brunson:
President Trump is now president.

And I hadn’t even thought about—I know he was—I felt he was going to investigate the 2020 election, and he’s already said, “It’s not over. That’s going to go on.”

And so I’m thinking, “What could possibly happen now?”

But then as I got thinking about it—not too long ago—I thought, “Wait a second.”

When the U.S. attorneys were representing the 387 defendants and the 2 federal courts—when it went to the Supreme Court of the United States—the U.S. attorneys are no longer their defense attorneys.

There’s a new defense attorney that’s assigned to take over on the Supreme Court level, and that’s the United States Solicitor General.

And she was a liberal leftist—appointed by Joe Biden.

But now, with a new president, we get a new U.S. Solicitor General.

And I’m thinking, “Oh my gosh. Who is this going to be?”

We just kind of waited and waited. And finally—just several weeks ago—we have a new U.S. Solicitor General, who is President Trump’s number one constitutional attorney, who has actually successfully argued in front of the Supreme Court Justices for Donald Trump.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Oh my God.

Loy Brunson:
His name is Dean John Sauer.

And I’m thinking, “This is another miracle.”

It’s like, President Trump knows about this. And Mr. Sauer has to know about this as well, because President Trump would not have retruthed about it twice unless he had got some good legal advice from, I think, Mr. Sauer.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Absolutely. Wow.

Loy Brunson:
So now there’s a new U.S. Solicitor General in place. But I’m thinking, we only have four—possibly four—U.S. Supreme Court Justices.

Amy Coney Barrett—when she was in the Senate hearing—was asked, “What are the five protections in the First Amendment?” And she couldn’t remember the protection that protects what I’m doing.

And that is: petition the government for redress of grievances.

And that’s what I’m doing through the courts. Petitioning the federal government for redress of grievances.

She couldn’t remember that. And I thought, “Gosh, that is so weird,” when I heard her forget that.

She remembered the four others, but not that one.

So I’m thinking, we need another Supreme Court Justice.

And I thought, “I wonder who—if there’s a replacement—who that would be?”

And I started doing a little researching and found out that President Trump has already picked someone. And it’s Ted Cruz—the man that instigated the 10-day pause for the 10-day investigation.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yay.

Loy Brunson:
I know, right? It’s like—another miracle.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Another miracle.

Loy Brunson:
It’s incredible.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s a big one.

Loy Brunson:
That’s a big one. Yeah. Exactly. For real.

So now that President Trump is determined to get to the bottom of the 2020 election, there’s all kinds of speculation in my mind what could happen, because this is a huge tool that can be used not just for investigation, but for information that could lead to criminal investigation from the Department of Justice—happening to a member of Congress.

And so that’s a huge deal.

It’s just incredible to think about.

Now, we know that a couple of the justices—their health isn’t so good.

And some of them have made really bad decisions.

But with Ted Cruz in place—and being able to—well, I’ve imagined…

Kelsey O’Malley:
Can you imagine if the 2020 election began to be overturned, it would overturn decisions made by the executive branch—which would include a Supreme Court Justice.

Loy Brunson:
So—

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yeah, that would be wonderful.

Loy Brunson:
And that’s what should happen, because that’s what is right, legally.

That’s what happened. It was fraudulent. It wasn’t looked into.

It was just swept under the rug.

Kelsey O’Malley:
So wrong.

Loy Brunson:
And lawyers even now—they don’t practice constitutional law.

Kelsey O’Malley:
No. And I think this could have a trickle-down effect—like a flood-down effect.

Loy Brunson:
Once we get the oath of office enforced as a binding oath—think about it.

If you sign a contract and you violate the contract, you have to suffer consequences.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Absolutely.

Loy Brunson:
And the oaths of office over time have included penalties of perjury, have had real teeth, but they’ve been getting away with it because we the people don’t understand Article VI of the Constitution requiring a binding oath.

And that brings me to my next subject—about my book that I have.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes, yes. I’d like to ask you first—before we get into your book—when did you start studying the Constitution?

Did you always have a passion for that? Or was it, like, your brother asked you to do this and you just had a spark in you to start studying and learning and then that desire grew?

Loy Brunson:
Well, it was way before 2020. It started in about 2010.

Barack Obama inspired me to study it when he told the world that the foundation of the Constitution was fundamentally flawed.

And so I thought, when I heard him say that to the world, it’s like, “If he were my defense attorney, he could be fired. He could be sanctioned. He could be sued for malpractice.”

Because he swore to defend the Constitution, and now he’s saying the foundation of it is fundamentally flawed?

Loy Brunson:
And so that got me interested in getting into the document.

And then I watched an incredible documentary called The Money Masters, which explains money and the Federal Reserve in some amazing ways.

And I started connecting dots in the Constitution. At first, it was painful to read it. I knew I had to read it, but when I read the oath of the president—yeah—that, like, seeing it in the document itself is much more powerful than just realizing he swore to defend the Constitution.

Of course, Obama took a congressional oath. But… so that began my study and my passion many years before the 2020 election.

Kelsey O’Malley:
So I think the Lord was probably preparing you for all He had planned in the future, and you probably weren’t even aware until all of this came about, right?

Loy Brunson:
It seems like it.

Kelsey O’Malley:
So we—

Loy Brunson:
It seems like.

Kelsey O’Malley:
We have the Ted Cruz video if you want to play that just to give a background.

Loy Brunson:
Yes, let’s show that.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Okay. Absolutely.

(Ted Cruz speech plays)

Kelsey O’Malley:
What truth that would benefit both sides, and what harm would it be to look into it—get the facts, get the evidence? Because either way, it would be the truth, which always benefits either side.

And I love how even in your lawsuit that you brought, it comes against both Republican and Democratic people, right?

Loy Brunson:
Yes. And another point is that it was not about the outcome of the election.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Right.

Loy Brunson:
It was simply about what Ted Cruz was talking about in the investigation.

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s right. That’s right. And you know what was powerful too is the little message they had come up—

Loy Brunson:
Yeah.

Kelsey O’Malley:
—blinking along the bottom—

Loy Brunson:
Right.

Kelsey O’Malley:
—as he spoke that.

Loy Brunson:
The propaganda.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes. The programming—

Loy Brunson:
Isn’t that amazing?

Kelsey O’Malley:
—of that.

Loy Brunson:
Yeah, yeah.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Just to see that now. It wasn’t there. I’ve never seen that there before. It just popped in there.

Loy Brunson:
Wow.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Wow.

Loy Brunson:
That—that is a—

Kelsey O’Malley:
More evidence.

Loy Brunson:
More evidence.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Absolutely. Definitely.

So will you share with us moving forward what do you believe the next steps are for the case?

Loy Brunson:
Well, Dean John Sauer—once he feels like the Supreme Court is in its proper place, and consulting with President Trump—can use this case in many different ways to gather information and evidence to bring criminal action against members of Congress and others, and to enforce the binding oath.

So there are a lot of different things that could happen with this. A lot of different options.

Kelsey O’Malley:
And do you know timeframe along with this? Like, do cases sit for a while or you’re unsure?

Loy Brunson:
Well, this is unique. There’s nothing like this. And it has happened before, I was told, where an appeal to the Supreme Court was denied, and then years later brought off the shelf. So this is there.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Mm-hmm.

Loy Brunson:
So Mr. Sauer and Mr. Trump—at the right time and the right place with the right justices—this could be an incredible, powerful tool.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Well, we’ll definitely keep our eyes on it and look for updates of what’s going on with your case, and I’d love for you to share on your book as well.

Loy Brunson:
Oh, sure.

President John F. Kennedy, when he was entertaining all the Nobel laureates of the Western Hemisphere, he said to them—and he got a laugh out of it—he said, “There’s never been a greater assembly of talent and knowledge in the White House, except for the possible exception when Thomas Jefferson dined here alone.”

And they all laughed, but he was making a great point.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Mm-hmm.

Loy Brunson:
Thomas Jefferson said, “The only true corrective for constitutional abuse is education.”

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes.

Loy Brunson:
Education. And what kind of education? Constitutional education.

And that’s what this new coffee table book—hardbound and softbound—that I have available is about.

You see there President Trump, a picture on the back, with his words as president. Let me just read that.

“As president, my highest duty is to protect the American people and the Constitution of the United States.”

I can’t think of a better way to get the word out there than my campaign, “Every Home in America”—that’s my trademark—to get it out there and get this in every home in America so people can see the cover.

It shows how and why promoting socialism is unconstitutional.

How is it possible we could have a U.S. Senator going public with the fact that he’s a socialist when the Constitution absolutely prohibits it and condemns it?

It’s about knowledge. It’s about education.

So this is available at trumpconstitution.com in hardbound, and here’s a softbound that’s just as big.

And then I have the smaller pocket-sized versions too. It has beautiful gold metallic on the front, and these new printings will have beautiful gold metallic on the back.

So it’s a keeper, and it’s a great thing for the coffee table, for conversation, to raise awareness—which is education—which is the big push for the solution: America’s understanding of these incredibly powerful concepts and clauses in the Constitution.

And one of them is the first ten amendments were not defined by the first Congress as the Bill of Rights.

They were defined as “further declaratory and restrictive clauses” to the seven articles.

That’s a huge concept.

The last line of the Fifth Amendment—which is one of those powerful declaratory restrictive clauses—is very clear with the words: “Nor shall your private property, which includes your money, be taken for public use without just compensation.”

That’s a powerful clause. And that—once it becomes understood and mainstream—game over.

The education battle is on.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yes. That’s right. That’s so good.

So people who want to follow along with you to get updates, to see what you’re doing, to follow interviews—where should they go? Do you have a YouTube? Is it just your webpage?

Loy Brunson:
If you go to lloydbrunson.com, it shows all of the social media places.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Mm-hmm.

Loy Brunson:
I hope TikTok is off because I got—

Kelsey O’Malley:
That’s—

Loy Brunson:
I got hijacked.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Oh no. So—

Loy Brunson:
Don’t go to the TikTok. My name got hijacked.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Loy Brunson:
But they can go to trumpconstitution.com. That takes you to sevendiscoveries.com, that shows these books.

You can get a copy of the lawsuit. Kamala Harris’s summons and complaint is perfect bound—available on that.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Yep, that’s awesome.

Loy Brunson:
I have a few made up for that. So that’s available. And so—those two websites.

Kelsey O’Malley:
Thank you so much for joining us today. And thank you for all the hard work that you’re doing and standing on behalf of, really, like I said, we the people.

I know you’re per se, and I think that even though you’re just representing yourself—you’re not.

Just so you know, you’re not alone.

Loy Brunson:
Thank you.

Kelsey O’Malley:
And I think there’s so many of us that are rooting for you and praying for you and standing behind you—and standing, of course, behind our president—and believing that he’s going to do the right thing.

And also knowing that God has woven His hand along within this as well, as you’ve shared the many miracles.

So we’re rooting for you, and I think you have the Lord on your side.

So I can’t wait to see what comes next.

But thank you so much for joining us today.

And thank you, everyone, for listening.